If, in the year 2009 – in the first decade of a new century – you find youself on the defending side in the middle of an ongoing debate on the morality, legality and efficiency of torture…..
……you are probably a conservative.
If you are a conservative and you find yourself on the defensive end of an argument about using heretofore (pre Bush/Cheney) unthinkable brutality to find out what a subject may or may not know…
….you are probably a NeoCon.
Where are the good old fashioned conservatives that all we used to know and love.
Did they ever really exist?